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[:en]At this year’s UCU Open in Utrecht, three members of DKWien were part of two amazingly successful teams.

One was a mixed team: Miri Muntean from DKWien and George Hames, former Oxford Union debater.
The other one was composed of the two freshers Marina Kojic and Natalija Ljubic, who only started debating this season.
At first glance, it might seem like an unusual delegation, but what these four happen to have in common is EUDC Novi Sad. Marina, Miri and George bonded during their time in the Organisation Committee and Natalija joined the event as a last-minute-emergency-volunteer.

Nani, Marina, George and Miri

Together, they now set out for their next adventure: exploring the dutch debating circuit. This proved to be quite successful:
Miri and George broke to the Open Final as the second team, while Marina and Natalija,
despite both being Novices, were able to reach the Pro-Am Final.

Both Miri and George also made it among the top 10 speakers of the tournament.

Motions:

R1: THW not allow family members of prominent politicians (e.g. Clinton, Le Pen, Gandhi and Kenyatta) to run for office
R2: This House Believes That Governments Should Stimulate Renting Rather Than Buying Houses.
R3: THW allow companies to pay more to women who agree not to have children
R4: THBT supreme courts should not be allowed to overturn laws
R5: THW mandate companies to make data on their consumers public in an anonymized fashion
Pro-Am Final: THBT Highly educated individuals in post-conflict regions have a moral obligation to stay and help rebuild
Semifinals: THR the 2012 decision
(Infoslide: The alien tort statue is a statute that allowed foreign citizens to sue for human-right violations committed outside of the U.S. in U.S. courts from 1980’s to 2012. In 2012 the Supreme Court redefined the interpretation of the statute to no longer cover crimes committed outside of the U.S. )
Grand Final: THW still not be catholic
(Infoslide: An Angel appears. They tell you the following: “God exists, heaven and hell do not. The Pope is the replacement of Jesus Christ on Earth.”)[:de]At this year’s UCU Open in Utrecht, three members of DKWien were part of two amazingly successful teams.

One was a mixed team: Miri Muntean from DKWien and George Hames, former Oxford Union debater.
The other one was composed of the two freshers Marina Kojic and Natalija Ljubic, who only started debating this season.
At first glance, it might seem like an unusual delegation, but what these four happen to have in common is EUDC Novi Sad. Marina, Miri and George bonded during their time in the Organisation Committee and Natalija joined the event as a last-minute-emergency-volunteer.

Nani, Marina, George and Miri

Together, they now set out for their next adventure: exploring the Dutch debating circuit. This proved to be quite successful:
Miri and George broke to the Open Final as the second team, while Marina and Natalija,
despite both being Novices, were able to reach the Pro-Am Final.

Both Miri and George also made it among the top 10 speakers of the tournament.

 

Motions:

R1: THW not allow family members of prominent politicians (e.g. Clinton, Le Pen, Gandhi and Kenyatta) to run for office
R2: This House Believes That Governments Should Stimulate Renting Rather Than Buying Houses.
R3: THW allow companies to pay more to women who agree not to have children
R4: THBT supreme courts should not be allowed to overturn laws
R5: THW mandate companies to make data on their consumers public in an anonymized fashion

Pro-Am Final:
THBT Highly educated individuals in post-conflict regions have a moral obligation to stay and help rebuild
Semifinals: THR the 2012 decision
(Infoslide: The alien tort statue is a statute that allowed foreign citizens to sue for human-right violations committed outside of the U.S. in U.S. courts from 1980’s to 2012. In 2012 the Supreme Court redefined the interpretation of the statute to no longer cover crimes committed outside of the U.S. )
Grand Final: THW still not be Catholic
(Infoslide: An Angel appears. They tell you the following: “God exists, heaven and hell do not. The Pope is the replacement of Jesus Christ on Earth.”)[:]

DKWien goes East: Pro-Am success in Sofia 2018

[:en]Another great Pro-am Team, Miri Muntean and Marina Kojic, helped to kick off DKWiens Debating season 2018/19 with an incredible success at the Sofia Open. They did however not only do an amazing job as a team, as a quick look at the tab – or better – Marinas memories below reveal.

Participating in a tournament for the first time made me realize a few things:

1. Being part of a Pro-Am team is a bless and a curse.
While I learned a lot from my very experienced and successful team partner Miri, I was afraid of letting her down or knifing our case. Miri did a great job mentoring me and after being first in round 1, I realized that after all it maybe wouldn’t go as bad, and focused on the good sides of having a Pro beside me.

2. Training is good, tournaments are better.
The feedback in Sofia helped me improve my speeches a lot, so after returning home I saw how much better I did in training sessions and also that I felt more comfortable speaking.

3.  Tournaments are great to socialize.
In the end we made it to the final, with Miri being 3rd and I being 10th best speaker of the tournament. We celebrated by enjoying great Bulgarian food with our (new) friends and spending the time before our flight back walking around the beautiful city of Sofia.

Marina & Miri

Motions

R1. THW allow people to sue partners who cheated on them.
R2. THBT Putin is good for Russian power on the international stage.
R3. THBT the Bulgarian government should pay reparations to all those who were subjected to the Revival process.
R4. THBT the western companies and investors should pull out of the Saudi Arabia’s Neom project.
R5. THR the increasing presence of nihilism in popular culture (eg. BoJack Horseman, Rick and Morty etc.)

Semi: TH prefers to be an averagely intelligent person to a genius.
Final: THBT it is NOT legitimate to shame public figures for beliefs and non-criminal actions from their youth (e.g. partying, alcohol consumption, soft drug use, political views etc.)[:de]Another great Pro-am Team, Miri Muntean and Marina Kojic, helped to kick off DKWiens Debating season 2018/19 with an incredible success at the Sofia Open. They did however not only do an amazing job as a team, as a quick look at the tab – or better – Marinas memories below reveal.

Participating in a tournament for the first time made me realize a few things:

1. Being part of a Pro-Am team is a bless and a curse.
While I learned a lot from my very experienced and successful team partner Miri, I was afraid of letting her down or knifing our case. Miri did a great job mentoring me and after being first in round 1, I realized that after all it maybe wouldn’t go as bad, and focused on the good sides of having a Pro beside me.

2. Training is good, tournaments are better.
The feedback in Sofia helped me improve my speeches a lot, so after returning home I saw how much better I did in training sessions and also that I felt more comfortable speaking.

3.  Tournaments are great to socialize.
In the end we made it to the final, with Miri being 3rd and I being 10th best speaker of the tournament. We celebrated by enjoying great Bulgarian food with our (new) friends and spending the time before our flight back walking around the beautiful city of Sofia.

Marina & Miri

Motions

R1. THW allow people to sue partners who cheated on them.
R2. THBT Putin is good for Russian power on the international stage.
R3. THBT the Bulgarian government should pay reparations to all those who were subjected to the Revival process.
R4. THBT the western companies and investors should pull out of the Saudi Arabia’s Neom project.
R5. THR the increasing presence of nihilism in popular culture (eg. BoJack Horseman, Rick and Morty etc.)

Semi: TH prefers to be an averagely intelligent person to a genius.
Final: THBT it is NOT legitimate to shame public figures for beliefs and non-criminal actions from their youth (e.g. partying, alcohol consumption, soft drug use, political views etc.)[:]

DK Wien@Prague Open 2018: A Fresher’s Perspective

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Participating in international competitions is probably the best part of debating. For those who don’t believe that yet, here’s how one of our newest members (Barbara Neuwirth) experienced her first time debating abroad. To put it in Mr. Trump’s words: It was just so great! 

Joy and Babsi at the River Vltava (Moldau), just being tourists

Just before uni started again, DK Wien sent a delegation of four debaters (Joy Edobor, Tommi Deimel, Katrin Fallmann and myself) to the lovely city of Prague, well known capital of beer, as well as of the Czech Republic itself. Having started debating only a few months prior to that, I must admit I was quite excited (better: super nervous) to take part in my first international debating competition. Would I get kicked out because my English was too bad? Would I vomit over the Judges? Would Katrin deeply regret pro-aming me due to a, then expected, major tearful breakdown?

Luckily, neither of those things happened. We faced only one slightly embarrassing incident on the train ride, when Katrin and I came to the painful realisation that our chosen team name “Czech us some beer” (German speakers will know) doesn’t make any sense whatsoever to an English native.
We’ll try better next time.

Day 1

Arriving at the location the following day, the National Scout Hall, what we found was a majestic old building right next to the famous astrological clock in the middle of Prague’s historical town centre. Debating with a view of one of Europe’s prettiest town squares created the feeling of delivering a speech of considerable importance, which might have helped me to calm down a bit. Looking back, that was me entering what I’ll call “politician mode”.
Both our teams did amazingly well in the first two rounds, where we all finished 2nd debating about political satire and state-run brothels – topics that I was pleasantly surprised with! Being a bit tired during the 3rd round, we had a harder time with a cheeky little Trump motion. Admittedly, I should’ve expected this in 2018.
Already looking forward to a well-deserved dinner and drink after the last round, a big surprise was waiting for us in the announcement hall: Katrin and I had broken and Tommi and Joy had, while narrowly missing the break, also done an incredible job in the last round!
Of course, being responsible adults, this didn’t come without a minor inconvenience: Celebrations hat to be cut a bit short that night to be able to get some rest before the next round on Sunday.

Final’s Day

Babsi, Katrin, Tommi, Joy

When the semi-final motion “TH, as the EU, would go ahead and boycott US sanctions imposed on Iran” was announced on the following morning, I realised two things. First, we probably wouldn’t make it to the finals. Secondly, the first thing I’d do right after getting home would be to dive head first into some good reading material on Iran-US relations. (It was not the first thing I did, and recommendations are still appreciated.) It was still a great pleasure to be able to listen to the other great speeches, foremost my own partner’s, the club’s designated expert on IR.

Finally,  Joy and I made good use of the stunning late summer weather in Prague when we successfully climbed up the hill to explore Prague’s gorgeous castle before taking the train back home to Vienna. Thanks Joy and Tommi for a great weekend and especially Katrin for taking me with her. I’m really looking forward to all the debates to come!

Motions

R1. THR the rise of satire as a means of political criticism.
R2. THW introduce state-run brothels.
R3. THBT it is the morally correct path for those who oppose Trump to depart the administration rather than trying to block it from within.
R4. THW subsidise banks to disproportionally direct loans to poor communities and individuals.
Semi: TH, as the EU, would go ahead and boycott US sanctions imposed on Iran.
Final: THBT atheists should try to convince religious people that there is no god.[:de]

Participating in international competitions is probably the best part of debating. For those who don’t believe that yet, here’s how one of our newest members (Barbara Neuwirth) experienced her first time debating abroad. To put it in Mr. Trump’s words: It was just so great! 

Joy and Babsi at the River Vltava (Moldau), just being tourists

Just before uni started again, DK Wien sent a delegation of four debaters (Joy Edobor, Tommi Deimel, Katrin Fallmann and myself) to the lovely city of Prague, well known capital of beer, as well as of the Czech Republic itself. Having started debating only a few months prior to that, I must admit I was quite excited (better: super nervous) to take part in my first international debating competition. Would I get kicked out because my English was too bad? Would I vomit over the Judges? Would Katrin deeply regret pro-aming me due to a, then expected, major tearful breakdown?

Luckily, neither of those things happened. We faced only one slightly embarrassing incident on the train ride, when Katrin and I came to the painful realisation that our chosen team name “Czech us some beer” (German speakers will know) doesn’t make any sense whatsoever to an English native.
We’ll try better next time.

Day 1

Arriving at the location the following day, the National Scout Hall, what we found was a majestic old building right next to the famous astrological clock in the middle of Prague’s historical town centre. Debating with a view of one of Europe’s prettiest town squares created the feeling of delivering a speech of considerable importance, which might have helped me to calm down a bit. Looking back, that was me entering what I’ll call “politician mode”.
Both our teams did amazingly well in the first two rounds, where we all finished 2nd debating about political satire and state-run brothels – topics that I was pleasantly surprised with! Being a bit tired during the 3rd round, we had a harder time with a cheeky little Trump motion. Admittedly, I should’ve expected this in 2018.
Already looking forward to a well-deserved dinner and drink after the last round, a big surprise was waiting for us in the announcement hall: Katrin and I had broken and Tommi and Joy had, while narrowly missing the break, also done an incredible job in the last round!
Of course, being responsible adults, this didn’t come without a minor inconvenience: Celebrations hat to be cut a bit short that night to be able to get some rest before the next round on Sunday.

Final’s Day

Babsi, Katrin, Tommi, Joy

When the semi-final motion “TH, as the EU, would go ahead and boycott US sanctions imposed on Iran” was announced on the following morning, I realised two things. First, we probably wouldn’t make it to the finals. Secondly, the first thing I’d do right after getting home would be to dive head first into some good reading material on Iran-US relations. (It was not the first thing I did, and recommendations are still appreciated.) It was still a great pleasure to be able to listen to the other great speeches, foremost my own partner’s, the club’s designated expert on IR.

Finally,  Joy and I made good use of the stunning late summer weather in Prague when we successfully climbed up the hill to explore Prague’s gorgeous castle before taking the train back home to Vienna. Thanks Joy and Tommi for a great weekend and especially Katrin for taking me with her. I’m really looking forward to all the debates to come!

Motions

R1. THR the rise of satire as a means of political criticism.
R2. THW introduce state-run brothels.
R3. THBT it is the morally correct path for those who oppose Trump to depart the administration rather than trying to block it from within.
R4. THW subsidise banks to disproportionally direct loans to poor communities and individuals.
Semi: TH, as the EU, would go ahead and boycott US sanctions imposed on Iran.
Final: THBT atheists should try to convince religious people that there is no god.[:]

Vienna IV 2017 – Einladung zur Finaldebatte

Dieses Wochendende richtet der Debattierklub Wien das international prestigeträchtige Turnier Vienna IV 2017 aus. An dem diesjährigen Turnier nehmen Debattanten aus vielen Ländern des Kontinents teil.
Das Finale findet im Festsaal der Universität Wien statt- dort werden die Besten des Turniers um den Titel “Sieger des VIV 2017” kämpfen.
Dieses Finale ist öffentlich und der Eintritt ist frei.
Der Debattierklub Wien freut sich auf Ihr Kommen.

Wann und wo?

Sonntag, 21. Mai 14:00 Uhr

Großer Festsaal der Universität Wien
Universitätsring 1
Wien

 

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This year’s Vienna IV brings some of the best debaters the continent has to offer to Vienna. As one of the most prestigious competitions in Europe, Vienna IV 2017 celebrates the art of debating in Austria and connects the local with the international debating scene.
The Grand Final is a public debate in which the best teams of the tournament will compete for the win.
We are happy to welcome you on the 21st of May in the main ceremonial chamber of the University of Vienna.

Final Debate: 21st May, 2pm

Großer Festsaal der Universität Wien
Universitätsring 1
Vienna, Austria

Free Entrance !

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JEF

 

 

                                       

Success for DKWien at PEP IV 2017

From 7th to 9th of April 2017, DKWien has sent four teams and one judge to compete in the PEP IV tournament in Belgrade. Competing were Katja & Paul, Miri & Mark, Dariusz & Vin,  Katarina & Jan-Gunther (St.Gallen), and Ingo as judge.

All four teams and our judge broke into the semi-finals, ergo half of the break consisted of Viennese teams!
One of our teams, Dariusz and Vin,  won every single round and broke first on 15 points.

Two of our teams, Miri & Mark and Katarina and Jan-Gunter (St. Gallen) made it into the finals,
and Miri & Mark won the finals and were crowned champions of PEP IV.

A huge success for DKWien,  congratulations to all the teams and the winners!

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DKWien Team wins the Leiden Open Novice Final 2016

Competing as "The Wien Machine", Kata Sebők and Anna Neuber won the Novice Final of the Leiden Open 2016.

With great pleasure we announce that Anna Neuber & Kata Sebők are the champions of the Leiden Open Novice Final 2016. Competing as the team “The Wien Machine”, they broke after five preliminary rounds into the Novice Final together with three other teams from England, including a team from Oxford,  and the Netherlands.  Kata and Anna, speaking from Opening Opposition on “THW would allow the armed forces to unionise, strike, and collectively bargain” prevailed against all other teams and won the final.  In the ceremony, Kata & Anna  received a trophy (see picture). Congratulations! The team “Daaan”, Daan Welling (Netherlands) and Dan Lahav (Israel) won the final debate in the Open category. Congratulations! Last but not least, our thanks go to the tournament’s organisers from the Leiden Debating Union, who hosted a great weekend for DKWien’s three teams and two judges.

Motions from the Leiden Open 2016:

Rd 1: THW ban fortune telling.

Rd 2: THW directly elect the members of the US Supreme Court.

Rd 3: THBT schools should motivate children to believe that anyone can succeed through hard work regardless of their background.

Rd 4: THW grant those diagnosed with terminal illnesses the right to access treatments that have not completed clinical testing.

Rd 5: THBT post conflict governments should recruit rebel soldiers into state armies.

Semi-final motion: THW allow individuals to sell their right to sue to a third party.

Novice Final motion: THW would allow the armed forces to unionise, strike, and collectively bargain.

Final Motion Definition: Immediate democracy is a method in which citizens can change their vote at any time. The number of MPs given to each party is allocated on a daily basis and represents the current support percentage of the population. In this system, there are no elections but the number of MPs from each party can change every day.
Final Motion: THW enact an immediate democracy.

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